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	<title>Comments on: The 15 &quot;Most Influential&quot; People in Security Today &#8211; Really?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Lippard</title>
		<link>http://www.mikeandrews.com/2008/02/13/the-15-most-influential-people-in-security-today-really/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Lippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team Cymru definitely belongs on the list.  Anyone who handles security for a tier 1 network provider knows them and understands why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team Cymru definitely belongs on the list.  Anyone who handles security for a tier 1 network provider knows them and understands why.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mikeandrews.com/2008/02/13/the-15-most-influential-people-in-security-today-really/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TK: Ok, so I suppose everyone is entitled to their opionons.  I do know who Bunnie is (and really want a Chumby - they are so cool!), but I differ in that he&#039;s one of the most &quot;influential&quot; people in security today - that&#039;s my main point with this eWeek article - not the people on it who (as I&#039;ve written above) have surely done good work.  My belief, and this is purely personal, is that there are people out there that have more &quot;impact&quot; than some of those on this list.

Most of the people on this list I had heard of.  Tavis, I&#039;m afraid, I had not until seeing this list.  For someone that works in the web area, and uses google products and tries to find/read everything that comes out of their security group, as you say I must be doing something wrong here.  I think in some ways Mat Cutts might be a better candidate.

If you look at the comments on the original article at eweek, I think many people had &quot;issue&quot; with some of the people on that list.  Let me re-iterate, I have no problem with the *people* themselves - they have all contributed in one way or the other.  My point is in the *influential* part, and I would guess that if a good number of people who work in security (some of whom I asked before posting) dont know what they have done in the last year (and can offer alternatives), then I would say this list is flawed in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TK: Ok, so I suppose everyone is entitled to their opionons.  I do know who Bunnie is (and really want a Chumby &#8211; they are so cool!), but I differ in that he&#8217;s one of the most &#8220;influential&#8221; people in security today &#8211; that&#8217;s my main point with this eWeek article &#8211; not the people on it who (as I&#8217;ve written above) have surely done good work.  My belief, and this is purely personal, is that there are people out there that have more &#8220;impact&#8221; than some of those on this list.</p>
<p>Most of the people on this list I had heard of.  Tavis, I&#8217;m afraid, I had not until seeing this list.  For someone that works in the web area, and uses google products and tries to find/read everything that comes out of their security group, as you say I must be doing something wrong here.  I think in some ways Mat Cutts might be a better candidate.</p>
<p>If you look at the comments on the original article at eweek, I think many people had &#8220;issue&#8221; with some of the people on that list.  Let me re-iterate, I have no problem with the *people* themselves &#8211; they have all contributed in one way or the other.  My point is in the *influential* part, and I would guess that if a good number of people who work in security (some of whom I asked before posting) dont know what they have done in the last year (and can offer alternatives), then I would say this list is flawed in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://www.mikeandrews.com/2008/02/13/the-15-most-influential-people-in-security-today-really/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... some of you are really showing your ignorance. Not knowing names like Bunnie Huang or Tavis Ormandy really only shows your lack of knowledge of the players in the security industry and the history of that research and development (not to mention some pretty major contributions by these individuals), not any fault in eWeek&#039;s selection process...

It is sad to me when so called security &quot;experts&quot; don&#039;t even recognize some of the best names in their field...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; some of you are really showing your ignorance. Not knowing names like Bunnie Huang or Tavis Ormandy really only shows your lack of knowledge of the players in the security industry and the history of that research and development (not to mention some pretty major contributions by these individuals), not any fault in eWeek&#8217;s selection process&#8230;</p>
<p>It is sad to me when so called security &#8220;experts&#8221; don&#8217;t even recognize some of the best names in their field&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shoaib Yousuf</title>
		<link>http://www.mikeandrews.com/2008/02/13/the-15-most-influential-people-in-security-today-really/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoaib Yousuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your comments.

Well said...The list put up by eweek is not influential at all....Half of the people i don&#039;t know and never heard there name, lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your comments.</p>
<p>Well said&#8230;The list put up by eweek is not influential at all&#8230;.Half of the people i don&#8217;t know and never heard there name, lol</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of the old farts of OWASP, it&#039;s good to see it listed here. We do have some amazingly talented people right now. Top lists, as you said, are damn hard to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the old farts of OWASP, it&#8217;s good to see it listed here. We do have some amazingly talented people right now. Top lists, as you said, are damn hard to do.</p>
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